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the Patriot (I) Values and Rights

Post  Admin on Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:03 am


What traditional values of America culture do you think where depicted in movie so far? Why?

What American Bill of Rights do you think where depicted in movie so far? Why?

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Re: the Patriot (I) Values and Rights

Post  chenny on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:58 pm

Traditional American Values:
Freedom – the movie is about American Revolutionary War in which Americans fought against the Kingdom of Great Britain for independence and freedom.

Democracy – in the movie, every man has the right to choose their religious belief and to decide if they are willing to join the army.

American Bill of Rights:
Amendment II -- A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a Free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
The protagonist, Benjamin Martin, led a Militia to skirmish the British soldiers. It depicted the second item of Bill of Rights
Amendment III
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
At the beginning part of the movie, the wounded soldiers were taken care of by the Martins. They were permitted to stay. However, this right was hindered later by the evil British colonel.

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Independence

Post  Juliaye on Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:41 pm

From the movie, we can see that the father was always giving order to his son because in his eyes, his son was just a child who maybe couldn’t make judgment. However, the son regarded himself as an adult, a man over 18 years old. He tried to be independent from his father. So we can see the two men almost argued all the time about everything (of course, it’s a way showing love and care to each other). So, we can know the American culture contains such a great value as independence. When a person grows to 18 years old, he sees himself as an adult and acts as an independent person with his own ideas. These people never believe blindly in their parents, and instead they begin to raise doubt to what is authority. Nothing is always true and people should have a critical thinking. This is very different from Chinese culture. We rely on parents for many years even after we grow to adults. I believe we should learn from Americans.

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American Bill of Right

Post  Juliaye on Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:17 pm

According to the American Bill of Right, the second one, “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed”, we will understand why the American people can store and bear guns which is impossible in China. However, the permission also brings about a lot of problems today. Every year, a great amount of people dies of gun killing. It’s right to ensure one’s safety and freedom, but bearing guns has too many bad influnces.

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values

Post  lanny.liu on Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:38 pm

First is freedom, and it's also the most important one because it's the basis of other things. self-reliance is also reflected in this movie, especially in what the father did, because he know they can't depend on the traditional fight ways so he use a different and a smart way. What he said "I’ll not fight, I'll not fight so I'll not vote to make another man to fight in his stead", also reflect his self-reliance. Individuality is also reflected in this movie. When a man said he couldn’t fight himself but his slave will fight for him instead, he insist on the slave signing the paper .

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Values

Post  Davidhuo on Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:35 am

1 Individual Freedom: the background of this movie is the American Revolutionary War. On the one hand, local Americans wanted to be free from the colonial domination of Britain and be independent. On the other hand, the slaves wanted to be break away from the oppression of the British Administration. Benjamin Martin, his son and the slave were struggling for their freedom.
2 Self-reliance: In the movie, Benjamin Martin and his son have many disagreements in respect to many situations. First, Martin objected to his son joining army. But his son insisted on joining it. Second, Benjamin recruited soldiers from the bar while his son went to the church. In fact, this reflects their difference in experiencing. At the same time, it means the new generation is gradually dependent from their parents and seeks for self-reliance.

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Re: the Patriot (I) Values and Rights

Post  sunnysun on Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:54 pm

Freedom and privacy ----1 ev

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Values and rights

Post  sunnysun on Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:08 pm

Freedom and Privacy ---every one has the right to speak freely and has the right to choose join in the army or not ; free love ----BEN doesn't interfere Gabriel and Charlotte's love ; Religion freedom --- They can choose whatever they believe . The new America is the whole American's America, wherever you come from.
Diligence --- Before Ben began to join the war he and his friends working hard on the plantation and make ling for themselves.
Responsible --- As a citizen of America, Ben has the responsible to join the war battle the enemies. However , as seven children's father he has the duty to protect them.
Equality--- Ben and some black people working on the farm happily. They are equal. During the war the new government declare a note about liberate the black American.


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traditional values

Post  lydia he on Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:14 am

Traditional American Values:
Freedom: Freedom is also the most important and the basic American traditional value.
The whole movie reflects American fight for their freedom.
Local Americans want to get freedom from Britain as well as get independence. At the same time, slaves want to be break away from the oppression of the British Administration. So people fight for their own freedom.
Independence (self-reliance): As for this value, I agree with Davidhuo
Benjamin Martin and his son’s action reflect this value.
The elder son has made their own decision even their father doesn’t agree.
To be a child, he can do the things which he wants to do when he is enough old and child always wants to be independent.Benjamin Martin and his son’s disagreements reflect this.

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Post  lydia he on Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:22 am

According to the American Bill of Right, the second one, “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed”.
We can easily understand why the American people can have guns. They have rights to do this. However, the permission makes lots of problems. Every year, a great amount of people dies of gun killing. Gun Control becomes a hot issue. Administers consider it seriously because government also should ensure one’s safety and freedom.

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Individual Freedom

Post  Vicki Z on Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:19 am

My answer to the first question is Individual Freedom and Democracy. We can see how individual freedom worked from the way that Benjiming and Gibral called on people to join the militia. Nobody forced the villages to put up a weapon. The leaders gave lecture to persuade the people to fight, making sure that their actions were based on their freedom. And the democracy was revealed in the event that those people voted to decided wether to fight or not.

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Post  Vicki Z on Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:21 am

As to the Bill of Rights, I think of only one of them: the constitution guarantees the right to keep bear arms. From the film, it was apparent that almost every common man could use gun, even the preacher and the little sons of the leading charactor. These men had no need to be trained before they got to the fight field, so it must be rather universal and usual to have a gun in there.

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American values

Post  melissa15 on Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:45 am

American values:
1.individual freedom. in the movie, the people has their rights to choose to join in the army or not, to choose to fight or not, to choose to vote or not. they are not forced to do anything they don't want. Gabreil wants to join in the army, his father finally agrees. he has the right to make a decision for his life.
2.independence. the people in the movie are in the oppression of the Britain colonailists. they want to fight for independence including the normal people and slaves.
3.democracy. when Gabreil went back to his hometown, he gave a lecture in the church. he didn't give force to anybody to join him. it shows the democracy. the people are willing to do things that they think are worthy.

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Post  Angela* on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:35 pm

I can see two traditional values from this movie, one is freedom, and the other is individualism.
Freedom: By freedom, Americans mean the desire and the ability of all individuals to control their own destiny. In order to achieve freedom, the people in America fought against the Kingdom of Great Britain at a great cost. Both the free men and slaves struggle for freedom and try hard to control their own lives.
Individualism: Individuals try to rely on themselves and achieve independence from others. In the movie, the son tries to take care of himself, solve his own problems, and "stand on his own two feet." He chooses his one way other than his father’s opinion.

American Bill of Rights:
Amendment II -- A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a Free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
In the movie, thanks to the arms they have, Benjamin Martin and other people can achieve their freedom. It's hard to imagine what it will be if they didn’t have any arms.




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Post  emma-lee on Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:07 pm

You have already said that the movie was about freedom. So freedom is the most important. In the movie, people fought for freedom. The son of the Benjamin Martin went to the church to spread the spirit of freedom and what the girl said aroused the hope in the deep heart of people. The second is self-reliance. In the movie, Benjamin Martin saved back his son through his wisdom and action. It is a fact about self-reliance. God helps those who help themselves.

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